I think her physical health and mental health have been damaged in recent years over all of the pressures put on her.Q: After all this time?A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. Twenty See, this is the difference. In addition to attending classes, Oswald made several trips to Detroit, including to a Detroit Pistons game. Now and then, she would receive calls from television or newspaper reporters seeking to interview the mother of the assassin, the self-described "mother in history." But see, I'm matter-of-fact about a lot in my life. Anyway, the only person I knew up there was Priscilla Johnson McMillan, who wrote my mother's book. ", on Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence, Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence. WebLee Harvey Oswalds youngest daughter, Rachel, was only one month old in 1963 when her father allegedly killed President Kennedy, and was shot to death himself. I started worrying about, first of all, do I have a responsibility to tell them? Mom would smoke all the time. The word Oswald was stamped in red ink over photographs of the two girls. Several years later, Ernest Campbell reflected on the episode initiated by one of his congregants. It sounds as if most people are not aware you're Lee Oswald's daughter.A: Yes and no. Porter still lives with her second husband Kenneth, however in private, and is afraid to go out in public. Mostly I feel bad that Lee was never able to tell his story. The widow of Lee Harvey Oswald was telling me her reaction to reading an account of her husbands funeral, written by her late, long-estranged mother-in-law. Two days later, as authorities transferred him to a different jail, Oswald was gunned down by Jack Ruby, a Dallas nightclub owner. My biggest concern was that people at the office had my home address and phone number and I didn't want it leaked to The National Enquirer I have two small children, I'm divorced, I didn't want people to harass the kids. When my mother came on and this interview went so badly, I decided I really wanted to rebut. The reason she is here is that we can teach her more in a shorter period of time, said Catford, the Institutes director. Great!" A: No. She had been in the United States all of 17 I always feel torn by whether I'm required to tell somebody about my history. People sent us money following the assassination, because Mom was young with two small children and didn't speak the language. In her early years, grocery shopping with her mother, Marina, and sister, Rachel, took place amid stares and finger-pointing; hushed conversations ignited around them like flash fires as they walked the supermarket aisles. But she was not too happy that I had found her and at that moment in time was not interested in. Are we going to vilify and harass her for what her husband was accused of doing? Whom do you really think of as dad? A week later, Campbell met with his congregation and explained the executive committees thinking. And they say: "Oh, we can take pictures? I move all the way up there, and his parents wouldn't even let us stay in his house because I was the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. Then I find out he's been doing some quote-unquote assassination research. She has always felt really bogged down by it. "She never knew when we'd run into someone, and she didn't want us to look like poor white trash," June says simply. My boyfriend would sneak down to Priscilla's basement and read all her old files. Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald passed away on aft July 16, 2013. And they got my mother on television in a live interview - she still doesn't have a good grasp of the language - and they were asking her specific questions about this book. He sold an article for an astronomical amount back then - I think it was $25,000. What investigation? * J Edgar Hoover himself solved the crime within 2 hours or so of the murder * The FBIs sole purpose then was to prove J Edgar The first chapter opens with my family, and he goes way back to my great-grandmother in Russia. For me, that is a dark forest, a heap of papers.. But I still have problems in that area, because I date a lot. I have to admit that when I heard that he used to play with me all the time, that was a nice feeling. I've wondered what my kids are going to turn out like. There was a problem saving your notification. She hadn't read it. So I said, O.K., this is it. ", My biggest concern was that people at the office had my home address and phone number and I didn't want it leaked to The National Enquirer. So he moved to Boston and wanted me to join him. Six weeks ", I said I appreciate it, but I really don't get involved in that. Q: How old were you then?A: It would have been, like, first grade. She sat us down, with my stepbrother, and started to explain who our father was- that it wasn't Kenneth - and who Lee was and what he had done. Anyone can read what you share. Lee Harvey Oswald also was accused of killing Dallas police officer J.D. She relied upon Russian interpreters during interviews with the Secret Service, FBI and the Warren Commission that investigated Kennedys assassination. Not so with Oswald. Q: To what extent have you followed the various conspiracy theories?A: It's only in recent years that I've started to get involved in all that, mostly as part of trying to get the records released. I usually end up telling people that I'm seeing very often. And she said: "I'm so and so, and I just want you to know that I've written a song about you - and your child. A few letters arrived at President Harlan H. Hatchers office, most from writers who were angry enough to write but not to the point of signing their names. Do I need to be more compassionate about it? Now, Mom does articles that she doesn't bother to tell me she's doing, and sometimes my name comes up. Q: Do you worry about telling your children as they grow up?A: I do. My husband couldn't have cared less. Well, there's a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chili Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. They lived their lives as best as possible. Under the shadow of the stigma. That Lee Harvey Oswald killed Officer Tippit and President Kennedy! Mar What do I tell them? He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. I always feel torn by whether I'm required to tell somebody about my history. Just get out. I was really supportive. WebAudrey Marina Rachel. Reporters came over and she would tell us, "shhhh, go in the other room". Together, they had a son Mark Porter. I didn't break down and cry or anything. Nonetheless, during several interviews over the past she reports being content. We didn't use the Oswald name, and it didn't come up a lot around the house except when reporters would call. During this time, Baker and Oswald became romantically involved, and Oswald gave her details of his defection to the USSR. Within weeks, donations topped $12,000 and by early 1964 would grow to $70,000 the equivalent of nearly $600,000 today. Lee Harvey Oswald in custody on Nov. 22, 1963. Additionally, Porter told the commission she believed her husband was guilty of shooting President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963. 1.65 m). During her talk, Baker criticized newspaper reports that she said inaccurately portrayed Oswald as a mentally unstable communist. Privacy Statement Im just like everybody else, and Ive had more than enough.. And she's just welcoming them with open arms. Great!" A: It would have been, like, first grade. Despite his involvement with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee and other communist - sympathizing groups, Baker insisted Oswald had always remained loyal to theUnited States. I couldnt remember anything after he was shot, Baker said. She was struck by the plight of Marina Oswald, the young Russian wife of assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. She was 23, neatly dressed in a skirt, sweater and winter coat, and looking like a graduate student with books tucked under her arm. The first car was The National Enquirer. Investigators searched his home and found this photograph of him standing in his backyard. She was pretty strong. There were hysterics. thanks for posting that interview I had not read it before. Rachel loved listening to that. Q: What are your thoughts on Norman Mailer's new book?A: I don't have a comment on it as far as its conclusions because I haven't read them, but I did start the book. The law said that if they felt that way, then those documents needed to be turned over to the Assassination Records Review Board and those folks would review the records and either concur, release them in blacked-out state or release them entirely. It might not have told us very much about the assassination of JFK but it provides an excellent insight into what it must be like to be the child of a much hated historical figure. The first chapter opens with my family, and he goes way back to my great-grandmother in Russia. It made no mention of his brothers infamous place in history. She came to New Orleans to give the discussion and promote her book, Me and Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald. Audience members received a book with their ticket purchase, and Baker signed copies throughout the day. Her grave was next to her son Lee. Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? It was just kind of eerie. I had already written a letter to President Clinton to try to make sure he would appoint this review board from the Bush legislation to review assassination records, and to release those records. By then, he had moved on from Ann Arbor to the pulpit of Riverside Church in New York City. Get New NovelSaving Jackie Ktoday at Amazon! She didn't feel like Kenneth was her dad. It was hilarious.Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? Q: Did you ever take the so-called assassination tour? I have a copy of an earlier interview with June from 1983. MORE THAN 30 YEARS AFTER the Kennedy assassination, Lee Harvey Oswald is a name that will not go away. I didn't really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. Oswald was born in New Orleans, Louisiana, on October 18, 1939 to Robert Edward Lee Oswald, Sr. (18961939) and Marguerite Frances Claverie (19071981). Robert Oswald died of a heart attack two months before Lee was born. Marina and the 2 girls moved forward as Marina re- married and both girls grew up. They were born in 1960 and 1962one was named June Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswalds youngest daughter, Rachel, was only one month old in 1963 when her father allegedly killed President Kennedy, and was shot to death himself. Standing outside the North University Building (located roughly near todays Biological Sciences Building), Oswald agreed to be photographed. Now shes a widow, too, was the headline in newspapers across the country. To preserve these articles as they originally appeared, The Times does not alter, edit or update them. In the spring of 1961, Lee Oswald met Marina Prusakova at a dance in Minsk, Belarus. They first met last April in Washington. As for what his exact role in the assassination was -- well, he'll have to be judged for that before God. As a single woman in the Soviet Union, Marina Oswald had studied at a technical pharmacy school in Leningrad. In her early years, grocery shopping She is a woman of average height. Obviously, if I'd wanted to share that I would have told everyone a long time ago. To avoid argument, the gravediggers were told they were digging a hole for William Bobo., As Secret Service, FBI agents, and a heavy police guard stood watch, seven newsmen serving asvolunteerpallbearers carried the pine coffin to the grave. An obituary in the Wichita Falls Times Record News reported the elder Oswald was 83 at the time of his death. This is material I never would have known about insofar as my mother's side of the family, because my mother was illegitimate, you know. I didn't really want to be the center of gossip in this whole building. Mom was always overprotective of us. He was 99. Very interesting. We stayed with her for the summer. But you have to understand that, aside from what role he had in the assassination, there's the issue of what role he had in our family. Flash forward to June 1962, and Oswald was back in the States, this time with a Soviet wife and newborn daughter. The other thing is, you just worry genealogically. Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed -- no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. She described Michiganders as like the weather crisp and cool. She made no mention of her young daughters, and said she could not provide any interviews because she had a pending book contract. (Oswald declined all financial offers.). Baker said the city of New Orleans, where Oswald was born, was central to their relationship. In my book she belongs where her husband is. Q: I guess you must be encouraged that the review board was finally sworn in last year.A: Yes, I'm also very excited about that. A: Yes. Moreover, Porter learned English and in 1989, she became a naturalized citizen of the United States. _________________________________________. The Gunman and His Mother: Lee Harvey Oswald, Marguerite Oswald, and the Making of an Assassin (Kindle Single), 2023 Smithsonian Magazine We are very close - except when these kinds of things come up. If someone has it, I would also like to read it again. In her early years, grocery It's not a matter of being ashamed, it's a matter of wanting to be judged as June Oswald and not "the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald.". The Michigan Daily made no mention of her presence (We just dont think shes news, the editor said). I had a conversation like that with her in about 88. The other thing is, you just worry genealogically: Lee was illegitimate, and so was my mother. But it was so funny because Mom talked to them for - I mean, nobody noticed that the date wasn't there! One of the latest authors to wade into the conspiracy waters is Norman Mailer, whose book "Oswald's Tale: An American Mystery" will be published next month. Why have you started to speak out?A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner. Where Does Marina Porter Live Porter still lives with her second husband Kenneth, however in private, and is afraid to go out in public. After her death from cancer on January 17, 1981, Marguerite Claverie Oswald was laid to rest in the Rose Hill Cemetery. My first serious boyfriend -- that's what he was fascinated about. And I'm gonna be in Dallas, and I want to sing it to you.". "We have to get the Government to move before it's too late.". There were a lot of things leading up to that that they wanted Mom to do, and Mom in recent years has gotten more and more involved, I guess because she's getting older and trying to rectify some of the things she may have done unintentionally -- like stating publicly that Lee did it. Its the first time weve seen pictures of her in about 20 years. Is David Lifton still working on a book about Lee? You try to be nice because you don't want to make somebody upset who's going to seek you out if they're kooky enough to do that stuff anyway. So I sat across the hall in a time-out room. Now, the word father does mean Lee to me, But dad is Dad. Together, they would learn and study five hours every weekday for eight weeks. She also said she watched Oswalds shooting by Jack Ruby two days later. And I realize that I'm kind of cold about it, so how do I tell them? I had already written a we got to President Clinton to try to make sure he would appoint this review board from the Bush legislation to review assassination records, and to release those records. (June has requested that her married name, which she still uses in business, not be printed), Despite privacy concerns, she's pushing for the release of all records pertaining to the assassination. WebIn the show Quantum Leap (1989), there was an episode titled "Lee Harvey Oswald,", which was a 2-hour episode, and showed main character Sam Beckett (Scott Bakula) leaping into Oswald's life at various points of significance between 1957 and 1963, beginning in 1963 in Oswald's yard, where Marina is taking the famous photograph of I think she is a phony in the whole deal. Oswald was among 30 students in her English Language Institute course. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: "Yes, that is me in the article. So she became a sort of tourist attraction. Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment, A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. Dr. Ernest T. Campbell, welcomed the idea as the one thing we might do to partially redeem the tragedy.. Q: One can't help but notice that you address him as "Lee.". I do blame him for having beat my mother, and not being a good father or a good provider. Porter married Oswald during his temporary defection to the Soviet Union and emigrated to the United States with him. The strongest reaction to Oswalds enrollment came from the people who were sponsoring her visit: the 2,300-member congregation of First Presbyterian Church. A review of Bakers book said Baker and Oswald were attempting to create a cocktail of toxins that would infect Castro with cancer while they worked at cover jobs at the Reily Coffee Company in New Orleans. Well, that's what Rachel wants to believe. After a quick, makeshift service, Marguerite barely missed a beat before stepping up to a television camera: "Lee Harvey Oswald, my son, even after his death, has done more for his country than any other living human being.". It was just kind of eerie.Q: I'm sure there must have been a lot of unusual incidents as you were growing up.A: I remember Rachel's seventh-grade dance. The couple later married on April 30, 1961. The way I finally woke up was, one night he said, "I'm gonna sell an article to Penthouse or Playboy" -- I forget which -- "and it's about your mother. I felt they manipulated her and made her look foolish. I have no job or income. Moreover, she lived there with her mother and stepfather until 1957. Her combative attitude never wavered. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms.Q: I assume you've seen the footage of Lee being shot by Jack Ruby. And there have been public hearings there and in Dallas and Boston. Cookie Policy Browse 22 June Lee Oswald had two children, Rachel and June the. June is quieter about her own marriage, which ended in 1992. I've never seen her act like that, like she needed to become more of a crusader, and it's taking its toll.Q: On your relationship with her as well?A: It has put certain strains on it. So this little boy she was going with, his parents were going to come get her and they were going to go to the dance. Upon entering public school, June took the surname of her stepfather, Kenneth Porter, who married Marina in 1965. And I said, "Yes?" The Presidents were all around the walls in the rooms. Even an intended compliment could hold hidden barbs - as when a male co-worker remarked on June's resemblance to "a young Marina Oswald," then immediately apologized, saying he "didn't mean to insult her" by invoking the infamous name. When the executive committee of the church governing body, known as the Session, reached out to Oswald in late 1963, it had done so in secret in order that Mrs. Oswald might be free from the pressure of publicity in considering the offer. Its members never informed the Session or any other congregant of the invitation, or of Oswalds acceptance. But the unmovable Marguerite remained unapologetic. I don't blame him for not being here for me. Ann Arbor police and campus officials vehemently denied the reports; Oswald herself told them she had not been assaulted in any way, physically or verbally. It's right across from the Capitol, and she was a waitress. The public was prohibited from Rose Hill Cemetery, That catches you off guard when you just wake up. Q: Your childhood doesn't sound like it was easy. A: Mom kept us together. So I never connected it as a big negative or anything. Oct. 19, 2013 at Loyola University in New Orleans. Nice to see you over here. Just in recent years; but yes. And she said: "I'm so-and-so, and I just want you to know that I've written a song about you -- and your child. "Having seen Marguerite Oswald's son murdered before my eyes, I dreaded intruding upon his mother's grief," Huffaker wrote. WebFor years, the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. I want to make sure they understand why I'm so matter-of-fact about it. For all I know it's still tapped. She said she came to know Oswald while the two worked on a plot to kill Fidel Castro during one summer when she was 19. Porter is 81 years old. A few men sent letters to the ELI office in hopes of striking up a romantic relationship with Oswald. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. She didn't want to listen to anyone. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/30/magazine/lee-harveys-oldest-june-oswald.html. I do remember that our phones were tapped. Without any sources, national news outlets began reporting that two women students allegedly attacked Oswald in a campus building. Q: What is the status of your present-day identity? If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he'd still not be a hero, he'd be a martyr. She later moved to Minsk to live with her uncle Ilya Prusakov, a colonel in the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs, and to study pharmacy. Q: How did you feel about being singled out? I think she is out to make money than if she has to say he is guilty. Returned to the United States The Oswald family settled in Fort Worth, Texas. He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. The churchs executive committee agreed. Oswald was considered an average student at the English Language Institute. Like she did a movie and it involved me and Rachel, and she didn't tell us first. It was a statement she memorialized by etching it in copper. Well, we're all waiting and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they've got a camera and she says, "Oh, you're gonna take pictures! I didn't break down and cry or anything. It was in Minsk that, in 1959, she met an American, Lee Harvey Oswald, who had defected to the USSR at the height of the Cold War, when tensions between the U.S. and the Soviets were running high. It would seem a perfect fit for Oswald. It was the committees hope to keep the matter from becoming public information in order that Mrs. Oswalds opportunity to review the matter objectively would not be lost, he said. She sat us down, with my stepbrother, and started to explain who our father was -- that it wasn't Kenneth -- and who Lee was and what he had done. However, she was not implicated in the assassination but testified against Oswald during the Warren Commission hearings. She thoroughly argued Oswald was medically mistreated after he was shot, presenting medical records that stated he was not given oxygen in the ambulance and was beat on his bullet wound to get him to confess. She copied it and put it on all my staff's desks. A few months later the young family moved back to the United States. This struck a chord with someone in the congregation who believed the church could help Lee Harvey Oswalds widow through education, assimilation and the English Language Institute. 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