Both marked CAMILLUS over N.Y. but the one on the left the font is larger. By It has a decent leather scabbard with no hole in the tip and leather cords intact, as well as the stone with similar markings as others Ive seen. Both have leather grips. The one on the left there is a bevel at the top of the grip. Why? This knife has been around for many years. It was used to open C-rations, cutting vines, skinning game and fish. I have a one of the knives that came out of a survival kit. 5665: Early 12/29/1939 prototype of the new Camillus design COStraight lineOLEAN, N.Y, and USA.1912 1920UNION CUTLERY CO.Straight lineOLEAN, N. Y1912 1930UNIONRound rectangular boxNil1914 1926KEENWELL CUT COStraight lineOLEAN, N. Y1920 1930KEENWELL CUT COStraight lineOLEAN, N.Y; Ka-Bar; Model number1928 1932KA-BARStraight lineUSA`1930 1940OLCUTStraight lineStainless Steel; or UNION CUT CO. & OLEAN, N. Y1935 1945KabarStraight lineUnfilled star1950 1970. Camillus knives may contain one to six individual blades, knife use caution when opening them. compares with this knife. She found the knife with the only identifying marks showing " Cammilus New York USA". More formal details weren't adopted until the close of 1943, this leaves at least 6 months of production and ordering of materials from contractors. Its blade is double-edged and has a length of 170mm (6 11/16 inches). If the blade measures 6 inches and it is an original, then it may have been manufactured before 1961. By contrast, the current DoD procurement process is much more refined and regulated. I have never seen that variation. This design was accepted, and the military specifications documents were updated to reflect Marbles concept in MIL-K-8662A (04 November 1957). unknown variant like the Marbles above. In fact, I believe that learning how to date a ka-bar knife requires more attention to detail and a couple of more moving parts than when we were dealing with the Kissing Crane knives. The other contractors made the Mark 1 in their own convenient way but conform to the basic guidelines which were granted approval. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy. The M3 trench knife or M3 fighting knife was an American military combat knife first issued in March 1943. Plus the rubber is just about the best thing for keeping a knife grippy even after you've gotten into messy parts of processing game. Both have dark what I believe is blued blades. The sharpening stone size shall be 3 inches long, 7/8-inch-wide, and 1/4 inch thick. The others that I've seen have the later arched tang stamp. So, as stated earlier, the archives of Marble or the DoD may reveal conclusively if the reason for the holes in the handguard. Late 1944 production through till contracts were completed or cancelled in 1945, you find those knives more alike or much more similar characteristics. rivets, Kent Sportsman with etching and stagged bone and large Force survival kit knife. I always assumed it was a Marine issued Kabar knife. Fortunately for us, Camillus changed their stamps enough to map each one to different periods. Show me your knife, and I'll tell you who you are. You pull the knife out but drop it. The serrated spine was designed to cut through the aluminum skin surrounding the airframes of Korean and Vietnam War-era aircraft. for great photos and full text on telling them Both have leather grips. It was made from a spring off a model T. The sheath was made from a leather belt off a steam tractor. Co., Olean N.Y.Straight lineNil1897 1909Union Cut. After vetting the information against the published government standards for this knife and the government procurement process, what emerged was a unique story of an iconic knife that has found its way from the military to the civilian outdoor world and into the hearts of many owners and users. Consequently, the knife blade being reduced from six inches to five inches allowed it to retain some of the qualities necessary to carry out survival tasks, but small enough that it could be easily stowed on an aircrewmans vest without causing interference for aircrews trying to carry out their duties while flying. S1408: This is a prototype Camillus sent in to alter the It is knives like these that make some people on the outside question why Case knives are so expensive when they are just a great value for their money. By 1876, after his uncles company had to close shop due to poor sales figures, Adolph charted out a new path for himself. In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). with the government to sell the design and know how to make the knife. Sears Roebucks in 9/26/1941. Relevant!! If you happen to have, Read More How to Date A Case Kodiak Knife by Yourself (Expert Advice)Continue, Klein knives are clear vintages, and theyre one of those knives that went to the war. Above we feature the Camillus USMC reproduction. To make things more simple, the initial production of the 5-inch hunting knives were bright blades for most all contractors. The contracts were 1942, & 1943. These markings will usually show on the tang since they are less likely to wear and be scratched off there. I know they were all built to US Government Standards, but was there any difference in the performance of the knives issued. Did Camillus Make Other Brands Knives on Contract? If there is anything else you want to know which I missed, do let me know in the comments section or reach out via the contact page. Im pretty sure the 80 doesnt mean 1980 since Ive possessed it at least a couple years prior. These were in issue up to 2000 as for as Im aware. For some reason or other I always thought the bright, lack of USN, Camillus blades were a late production, or post war variation. This happens in so many cases, utilizing the already fabricated material until exhausted then make the change. Thanks for all the photos. Bruce Mergele, QMC, USNR-Retired. This tang stamp was used by Camillus from 1946 to 1950. knife that was adopted. After all, that is what they practically do for a living. The sharpening stone shall be fabricated from silicon carbide, grain size 280, hardness P, vitrified bond. I am trying to find any information on a 7 inch U.S. Camillus. the M3 pommel and guard to improve their knife and help conserve parts. This knife looks a lot Some extremely valid points! blade with S numbers. touched them in anyway, as you see them is how they were in the showroom. In most of the places that Ive come across a Klein knife, it was either a military electricians knife or for another handyman. The Leather washers may have been replaced with the black ones. and the empty draws. Thanks for the feedback. This is a testimony to the ingenuity of the design team that developed the knife at the Marbles company. As a result, the Ontario Knife Company developed a prototype based on the 1957 design that was first submitted by Marble. In my estimation I would not include the Camillus 5 inch blades with fullers in a discussion about Navy Mark I knives. Here are some ways to identify a fake Camillus knife: If youre in the market for a vintage Camillus knife, make sure you know how to tell the real deal apart from the repros. Buying via the links on CutsandCarves could earn us a commission on the sale. I know how well "Orvet" makes customs. metal tip protectors. That sold this great knife with blade, hilt and butt blued. Companies interested in gaining the government contract received these requirements and submitted proposals for consideration based on those requirements. The knifes performance was dependent on the users knowledge and skills. It would also be much easier to confirm additional details about the knives, not just who made them and when. The back piece has also been cut-through by the blade over the years, so the metal addition was definitely needed. In most cases, this wont give you the exact year/ date/ timeframe, but point you to the era when the knife was made. The Air Force Survival Knife is an excellent knife. Well Camillus didn't start making these knives with this marking until 1974 so I'm just not in possession of good references to documentation that would support my opinion yet. Charlie I happen to agree with your take here. They are the same size which is the size of a Mark I or Jet Fighter Pilot Knife. Marbles taught Camillus how to do it. I may also be able to confirm if the knife was a gift from my uncle who worked on helicopter camera equipment in the Vietnam war. Now, we know already that this, Read More How to Tell If A 1918 Trench Knife Is Real (5+ Unique Methods)Continue, The kissing crane knives are some of the most well-made, long-lasting, and historical knives that we can still find around today. J5 Forest King etched with prototype J-5 on the blade. I recently bought a new Ontario that has 3-11 on the pommel (March 2011 I reckon). S-5382 Half guard prototype with scaler back and 3 small knife. I would love to see a picture of the knife. This is the early AAC This is an early Marbles design with a Skip, I'm not sure that we can or can not label either of those knives as genuine Mark 1's. Now that you have established the ka-bar knife and got the markings to know what kind of issue it is, how about knowing if it is a WW2 knife or not? If I am honest, theyre not the only ones to make this mistake. IMHO, both knives fit into the category of Navy Mark1 knives. if it was in Vietnam it must have been with some other folks not the US M4 Bayonet Production Aerial Cutlery Company: 91,898 Camillus Cutlery Company: 332,698 W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Co.: 224,764 Imperial Knife Company: 917,894 Kinfolks, Inc: 119,702 Pal Blade Company: 268,000 Utica Cutlery Company: 515,000 In New York City. http://usmilitaryknives.com/knife_knotes_7.htm. Enjoy! The M3 was originally designated for issue to soldiers not otherwise equipped with a bayonet. This knife fits in with In the guides to dating Schrade knives, dating kissing crane knives, and knowing what era your ka-bar knife is from, there were a lot of years to deal with. This does not impact the price of the item youre buying and it supports me to keep creating the content that you love. I am 63 yo and have had this knife since I was a teenager. If you dont find your stamp and logo from there, use the official stamp/ logo guide from the official Ka-bar website as seen below: There is a lot that you can tell about the Ka-bar knife from the markings on the blade. 5665 J68: Unknown so far, unable to find the S card the capt14k, The story of this knife seems to begin in 1953, when the DoD announced to private industry their specifications for a standardized survival knife for pilots to interested vendors in Military Specification MIL-K-8662 (16 October 1953). They adopted the single pin In the testing Western won the contract If you would like, I could send you a photo of this knife. The blade design is different then the However, this was not the end of the aging Air Force Survival Knife. FYI, in case your interested, the Government specification sheath for this knife is still available. Powered by Invision Community, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY. We made no attempt to do any cleaning in case the knife is old. It is kind of interesting that the concepts the BuOrd used to formulate the design they wanted for the Mark 1 came from two knives, Pal actually made the Mark 1 closest to the drawing. Thanks for your response. We have over 75,000 pieces of Boy and Girl Scout Memorabilia to sell. Thanks! These bayonets are very similar to the originals so you need to check inch Mark 2 with a M3 pommel. Here you will find information and tips on outdoor activities, wilderness safety and survival, equipment, first aid, health, and other related items of interest to hikers, backpackers, and other outdoor enthusiasts. The bit telltale difference is the sharpened false edge. As a further development on the Air Force Survival Knife, the Ontario Knife Company offers a second-generation civilian version of the knife in its Special Purpose SP series of knives. Otherwise, it would be much easier to go through their files to find out which Ka-bar knives were made when. If you have any of those knives, it wouldnt be out of place to salute it for its commendable service. pins marked Kent, As above with different tang markings, still a Kent. Even if the Ontario Knife Company discontinues their production and the DoD phases them out of their inventories, the knife will be around for commercial purchase. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. To comply with the new corrosion resistant treatment, they then began treating their blades. No matter the reason for wanting to date that blade, these methods will get you an accurate year or an era, at worst. Any Further Details or assistance is greatly appreciated. The original design of this 5" blade is, I believe, a pre-war Marbles design which was known as the "Ideal", a #45. I have 2 Camillus Knives that are similar but different. Thus, this knife became obsolete for its original intended use when the majority of military aircraft incorporated composite materials. This is the #3 knife Camillus submitted for the test. 5679 L36: WW II Army Air Corps knife. Co., Tidioute;Union Cut. Stagged Rosewood, CR guard The new design that was adopted was the 6 inch JPK. December 15, 2017 in EDGED WEAPONS. The first Ka-bar knife was manufactured by the Tidioute Cutlery Company (in Pennsylvania) which came into play in 1897. Required fields are marked *. [emailprotected], Thanks for letting me know that, Murphy. 2023 Cuts & Carves - Designed by O. 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It is knives like these that make some people on the outside question why Case knives are so expensive when they are just a great value for their money. The 6 inches blade was shortend to 5 inches keeping the profile and was then accepted. There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife), Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor. Thanks for the info major. The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. edge. Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com, AAPK Tips and Tricks -- An Illustrated FAQ Forum on Steriods, Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days, Canal Street Cutlery Collector's Forum, Cattaraugus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Great Eastern Cutlery (GEC) Collector's Forum, Robeson Cutlery Company Collector's Forum, Schatt & Morgan Knife Collector's Forum, Knife Related Creation, Modification, And Restoration Forums. Two other bidders decided that the knife was worth at least 4X more than what I thought the knife was worth to me, so one of them has it. Era" knife. Today, heres all you need to know about dating your ka-bar knife as effectively as possible. This causes a lot of confusion, Tyler, but the pommel peen is a better method to determine the WW2 knife. Camillus used different sized stamps on their MK1s, believe there were 3 distinct sizes. stagged Rosewood with brass pins, S-6541 marked Guarded Version stagged Rosewood with brass Made in September 1941. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. This is the guard-marked type with a "plain" unmarked blade. Maybe you can help me out here. I can't give you a model number but it is a USAF survival knife AKA a jet pilot knife or bolt knife. These rubber-gripped bayonets are thought to have come from Asia, possibly from South Korea. PS If you buy the knife today, the seller might include a newer sheath just to promote better knife safety for you. Camillus Cutlery Company won the contract and made the first production run on Jan. 27, 1943. Heres a link to Frank Trzaska's Note on the subject. The one on the left there is a bevel at the top of the grip. When I enlisted in 69 I got my next one from supply. I am about to show her this blog post and additionally rub it in a little! They may allow you to send it to them to get refurbished. brass rivets, Another Kent with stagged bone and small brass domed contracts. One of the tasks that this knife was designed to accomplish was helping pilots and aircrews egress their downed aircraft or to help first responders extract them from their downed aircraft. Already bankrupt, the brands assets were bought by the Robinson Knife Company who flipped the assets to Cole National in 1966. The cutting blade is to be 5 1/8 inches long and 3/16 inches thick. Is it a genuine vintage or merely a reproduction? Since Camillus is highlighted here, the bright blades were the initial production knives. Knife Center.com has them in stock. (Author's note: Camillus had developed the Mark II during World War II, and made more Mark II's than anyone else, though the Marines still called the Camillus-designed Mark II knife "the Ka-Bar.") The New-and-Improved Camillus M3 In the 1980s, the U.S. Armed Forces discussed improving the M3. factory reference collection. In August '61, a 5" blade was specified. He believes these were ordered in 04/05/44. But if its an Asian imitation then its hard to determine when it was made. One of the nice things about this forum is having so many eyes available for looking. Eventually the U.S. Navy adopted the knife after failures on the Mark 1 and renamed it the U.S. Navy Mark 2. You are using an out of date browser. Now, contractors didn't just immediately stop what they were doing and make the transition, they continued with the existing product before the transition. As well, it must be remembered that this knife was designed to address a specific need for the U.S. military and was not intended to be used outside of that context. Both have dark what I believe is blued blades. Boy Scout Knife, Camillus Manufacturer, Whittler's Knife, used, blades in great condition but shank shows wear (CSE06) Please refer to the pictures for condition grading. You ought to take part in a contest for one of the best sites on the net. Find out more below. That, however, only makes getting the exact era that these fine knives came from a more interesting affair. The tip of the sheath is pointed and the back part of leather extends beyond the front for two lanyard holes. steel domed rivets. The one on the left is a 1972 and the one on the right has no date. Can you say more about how Ontario played a role in the Survival Knifes evolution ? While some other companies have taken over the design and started to make modern versions, there is simply nothing like the older units that first came out under the original Klaas company. Its width is 21.8mm (21.8mm) and thickness is 4.5mm (4.5mm). Each manufacturer would like to put its spin on things. Many thanks! Orig. Camillus Tang Stamps and Dates (www.bladeforums.com) Camillus Tang Stamps circa 1915-1946 -A WORK IN PROGRESS (AAPK-All About Pocket Knives) . All of these make the recipe for a truly great knife that deserves our attention. Each contractor had their personal signatures, better described as authorized deviations. flat sided pommel to be used for hammering prior to the adoption of the hex If you are interested in the Camillus M4 The U.S. Defense Department published to private industry requirements for a standardized fixed blade knife to issue to pilots and aircrews of the various service branches. Dont expect to find an expert that will date your knife for free. Any review of World War II military fixed blades must include several examples of Western knives. If you dont go to knife shows, you might also have some luck with veteran knife collectors in your locale. (222) $59.00. by orvet Tue May 28, 2013 1:20 pm, Post Example would be you have crashed landed and might be on your side up in the air. 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