I hear you on that Ruger. if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. The company SHOULD be boycotted even if they shuffle management. I have LOUDLY mentioned their treachery on the dozens of FB groups I belong to. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. We do not need traitors in our midst. What opinion? No they dont. Until I see some evidence that they knew of and/or supported this I will not rush to blame RRA for what a trade industry group that they happen to fund did. I fail to see how giving the box stores a leg up on the gun shops helps Rock River or Springfield Arms in any way. Never, ever. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. it But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. Springfield cleaning to get the taint out of there. The Henry ri fle was made by the New Haven Ar ms Company. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. More interesting question: can Springfield even attempt to disavow at this point? He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! I say boycott both RRA and Sprinfield until they get sold off to someone who cares about gun owners. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. Its not just selling, genius. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. Last Updated. Thanks Springfield. AR Parts. Dont know what will replace the EMP4 but I bet the TRP itch gets scratched by a Dan Wesson. ! mantra. Henry? If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. This is why I said should not will. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. Neither excuse is a proper justification. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. I have a BM-59 kit that still needs to be built. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? That will never happen now. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. Not now. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. Now they will pay the price. thats the one ive just stopped considering. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. The Ruger is berween $6-700. Your Price: $744.13. CZ-75/85 are great guns. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. Didnt you read this article? Damn shame. Wasnt sold on DAO until I shot it. I dont think youre using that word right. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. The owners at S&W that colluded with Clinton paid the price for it. I agree. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Also, RRA derives the bulk of its money from government and LE contracts so youll have a really hard time bankrupting them with a civvie sales boycott. If for no other reason than as a cautionary tale to other would be future sell outs. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Screw that. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. The Springfield name is going to carry an odor, no matter how good a particular firearm might be. Magpul moved. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. Major mistake, Springfield. Low character move. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? Customer service beyond any reproach. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. I bought a RRA rifle back in 2012. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? I have been in similar situations where it is damned if I do damned if I dont. So Rock River Arms story is complete crap and a bald faced LIE on the order of, I did not have sex with that women. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. Dont need it, but I kinda like it. In your opinion. That is sooo repetitious! How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? And rra. With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. Up yours Springfield! To whom will they sell? They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. Ruger sold us out on the 94 AWB and it is well documented. A corrupt Illinois politician. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. Easy there tough guy. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. An American voting for a Democrat It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. When no one else had any left. CTD is my last choice. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! And theyre telling their friends. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. Tennessee welcomed Beretta with open arms and the employment of a lot a lot of people in well-paying jobs. Pick something and follow it. So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock If youre looking for a good, dependable AR at a reasonable price, I dont think you But thats only a fraction of his treachery. No guilt trip on my hip. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. Hugely disappointing. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. The company was founded in 1996 by brothers Mark and Lynne Zanders. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. Thats how capitalism works. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. Everyone (hopefully) recognizes that Bloomberg et al use bad legislation in NY and elsewhere as models to sell to politicians elsewhere, hence the need to use all available legal avenues to demonstrate the fallout from such actions. In the former case its a matter of not really understanding the client and in the latter its a case of assuming that its better to ask for forgiveness than to beg for permission. You can bet our sport; Henry wouldnt have gone along with that. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? The S&W deal with Clinton was made on March 17, 2000 and the company was sold for $45 million ($15 million cash and $30 million in acquired debt) on May 11, 2001 If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? Screw CTD. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. 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