No, she was an oops kid. So for Isaiah, being born was like just being cut off. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Yes, yes. US $53.6 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for VCM II Main Cable VCM2 16pin Cable VCM 2 OBD2 Cable VCM ii IDS V101 Data Cable at the best online prices at Free shipping for many products Yeah. I don't have the biggest boobies in the world. So yeah, she keeps me busy. One time, and I'm on flighter. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Why? Covid has disrupted the most basic routines of our days and nights. It's writer, Sam Kean again, and here's, he says, what you need to know about the midwife toad. PAT: Last I heard she was living on the streets in LA. BARBARA HARRIS: I mean, I'm married to a Black man. He was known for going around and giving, what he called, his big show lectures, where he would wow whole audiences of people. 01:04:34 - Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. OLOV BYGREN: The results are quite obvious. JAD: Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. The event that really sets this story in motion, the set of events, happened a few months after Barbara had brought Destiny home. The show in in the radiolab eye sky transcript of was interested in his life In And bring the eye Amount of long-distance Runners and they had a Radiolab podcast about it and they. PAT: It would be wrong to assume the women Barbara talks about on TV [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: These women don't just have one and two babies. SAM KEAN: But this was a really, really tough place to grow up. As he's doing his rounds, he stops by the midwife toad terrarium, he looks down at that little male toad with grapes stuck to his legs and he wonders, "How adaptable is that little guy?" You know, they say it only takes one time. Meaning that they had less incidence of heart disease? But in the middle of a conversation about how to fight the virus, we find a place impervious to the stalled plans and frenetic demands of the outside world. DESTINY HARRIS: That's my little girl. What you see in the records, is that one year 100 liters. We'll just get one more.". JAD: These were kids that didn't end up with Barbara? But what exactly Maybe you can explain this to me, Robert. [expletive] That was awesome. And there were from the beginning. And he makes a very careful study of this hand. It was something they acquired during their lifetime. And eventually, over the millenia, what youd get, is a creature with a very long neck. JAD: I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. Well, its offensive. Like. This assignment is from the free science education website Science Prof Online(ScienceProfOnline.com). Darwin's theory would have said, you know, 90% of the toads are going to die. JAD: Thanks to Frances Champagne and Michael Meany and Sam Kean, who writes about Paul Kammerer in his book, The Violinist's Thumb. Stick around. Assuming that you can survive the ordeal, and you grow up, and you have kids of your own, the data seems to say that your kids will benefit from your suffering. You can't see that on the radio but, hey, it's a fact of life. SAM KEAN: That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying CARL ZIMMER: "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". If . I'm so proud and I have four years clean. I mean, they didn't have porridge. PAT: You picked him up right from the hospital? Except he had one. About 30 years ago-. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: I'd like everybody to meet, please, Barbara Harris. So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. LULU: Did you know there is a part of this show is gonna be like crazy breaking news, like happened yesterday and we already have a deep take on it? That's my little girl. All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. PAT: And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". About 30 years ago-. Then she goes, "Oh wait, I didn't give birth to you. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? ROBERT: By all accounts a pretty good-looking guy. That tongue is doing something to the DNA. Radiolab branded apparel and accessories are available at the Official Radiolab Online Store, aka the Swag Lab. And I didn't find a single case of someone saying that they regretted what they've done. She was thinking BARBARA HARRIS: "Everybody's motivated by money., BARBARA HARRIS: Can I offer these women money to use birth control? I'm not saying that these women are dogs but they're not acting any more responsible than a dog in heat. Its so good that it makes you not want to trash the house, you know what I mean? Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. OLOV BYGREN: They didn't have grains. CARL ZIMMER: But there were a lot of skeptics. Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. I like you, I get the sense that there's a lot of warmth in you. DESTINY HARRIS: And right now, I'm student teaching. What exactly happens between 9 to 12 that makes this big difference? CARL ZIMMER: I just have to read this to you. And I know fate is gonna give them a couple random mutations in those genes. I said, "No, no, that's okay." It happens. Radiolab is on YouTube! FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You would be licking them quite a lot. SAM KEAN: Really slowly, gradually, achingly slowly. And I've got say, I'm feeling pretty good about this show so far. That's how I've always looked at it. You got to kick it back. Researchers have found evidence of structural. I feel that they should all be sterilized. Maybe you can explain this to me, Robert. Why would that happen? That was nice. That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". And rewrite the so-called rules of genetics. Because he couldn't hold formula down. You know? He was miserable to look at. JAD: But were gonna play you stories where JAD: This is Radiolab. Who now works at Columbia University. JAD: Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? Then, Carl told us about this research that showed Well, he couldn't quite remember the details. Well, it was a zoo where there was all sorts of experiments going on. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: These people are paying millions of dollars to take care of your children!]. They like to hang out in the water and the females like to lay eggs in the water. And when she had a baby. And very often, one of them will just go crashing into the DNA and it'll stick there like a barnacle or a glob of peanut butter. We neuter them.". Looking for patterns in cardiovascular diseases, high blood pressure, and such. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org.]. PAT: So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking PAT: You know? Your boys will first grow taller and taller for the next few years, and when they get to be about 9, 10 years old, they're going to stop growing just for a few years. To any drug-addicted woman who will agree to have no more babies. PAT: And Barbara found herself returning to a thought she'd kind of always had. I mean, youre just youre saying a lot of things that are really impressive. ROBERT: Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. So were getting close to the moment of truth, because there it is. Thanks to Frances Champagne and Michael Meany and Sam Kean, who writes about Paul Kammerer in his book, . It was this struggle for a few years. But here's what I did not know about DNA. Its just That's just how I've always looked at it. BARBARA HARRIS: Light bothered him, noise bothered him. Once their born, their genes are fixed and change does not happen in a generation or two. Then 275 words will cost you $ 10, while 3 hours will cost you $ 50. Barbara tried to get a law passed requiring just that. And right now, I'm student teaching. Well, yep, that is so true. ROBERT: So what is the licking doing then? [laughs] Can you say, "Never, ever?" Assuming that you can survive the ordeal, and you grow up, and you have kids of your own, the data seems to say that your kids will benefit from your suffering. I said, "This will be the last one. ROBERT: So, of course the folks at the Vivarium asked him. ], That's their choice, but the babies don't have a choice.]. We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over time. More of this particular protein. How do these simple little traits get passed forward? She should be with me. So this whole debate, two totally different ways of seeing life. ROBERT: I think that makes a lot of sense. And she's a complete nut. JAD: I know! Meet Jeremiah! Where we began, they will accomplish. JAD: You know, inside these cells, in the center, coiled up in little spools, is the DNA. BARBARA HARRIS: "I want to thank you for your support and kindness as always." And Destiny was in the other room, sleeping or something, I'm not sure. ROBERT: You cant say that. PAT'S DAD: Calling in to help read the credits. What do you mean? I know I've been joking a lot in this interview, but I mean it with all that I am. She said, "Thank you so much for the gift, I bought my son an excavator truck, remote control and some summer outfits." Listen to the first three stories of the "Inheritance" Radiolab Podcast (Control + click on link to access podcast. PAT: Because she says as soon as she saw Destiny BARBARA HARRIS: Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. We inherited this beloved show that we first fell in love with as listeners. PAT: As Barbara made the rounds on the daytime talk shows, the reaction was split right down the middle. ROBERT: What a name, you've got to like this guy. And as of 11:01 a.m. on Tuesday, when were recording this, we have not broken the show. And when methyl groups stick to that part of the DNA, the maternal instinct is effectively turned off. CARL ZIMMER: At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. Yeah. I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. He extended this idea to people. Maybe like those methyl things we were telling you about with the rats. So here's what you're going to notice. But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. Were there any consequences? Environmental Biology Radiolab - Inheritance Due to Haiku by Monday March 3rd Name: Dmitry Matveev Date: SAM KEAN: It seemed to have been passed down for multiple generations. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yeah, you can't touch that. We have experts even in very specific fields of study, so you will definitely find a writer who can manage your order. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? And at first, it didn't go so well because, you know, if you're a land toad and you're trying to have sex in the water, it's kind of hard. My home village was 10 miles North of polar circle. JAD: I got to say this is spooky. PAT: Right away, people accused her of targeting women at their weakest moment and enabling their drug abuse. That kind of 30 years? I ended up finding myself really conflicted about it. But according to Kammerer, shortly after these toads got into the water, they did begin to evolve fast. BARBARA HARRIS: Yes, she has the same name as me. JAD: Or very many of them right at all, but, you know, his basic idea seems to be true. Then World War One came and that disrupted everything. I make a difference to her. And so, you could only see one nuptial pad, and it all comes down to thisand all of that was just about to fall apart. You know, just take a little peek for themselves, and every time SAM KEAN: Kammerer said no, they were his specimens. His famous example was giraffes. That's a lot of people. JAD: It's off-limits. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. CARL ZIMMER: He hit the lecture circuit and he hit it big. Look, in the end, what do I know? Right below the headlines says, "Scientist's great discovery which may change us all.". [chuckles]. JAD: In any case, these books tell you when each of these folks died, how they died. PAT: And at a certain point, I noticed over my shoulder Barbara's crouched down and she's got her phone out and she's taking a picture of this just perfect little scene. PAT: Barbara started finding herself on panels with women who'd use drugs during their pregnancies. We'll just be honest. Just don't have any more children because, at that point, I didn't really know any of them. CARL ZIMMER: Well, it was a zoo where there was all sorts of experiments going on. So, of course the folks at the Vivarium asked him. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I feel that they should all be sterilized. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. But, this hour were gonna fight this sort of sad sack feeling of inevitability and impotence. ROBERT: And rewrite the so-called rules of genetics. I want her to be able to look back on her life one day, maybe when she's getting interviewed, I don't know, and be able to say that, "Yes, my mom was there for me 100% without a doubt." I'm almost done. And he was going through withdrawal. They began to grow these all puffy things on their hands. Are you nine? I said, "No, no, that's okay." SAM KEAN: He was known for going around and giving, what he called, his big show lectures, where he would wow whole audiences of people. Yeah. PAT: Lynn has become one of Barbara's fiercest critics. The kingdom archive. I wonder. The authoritative record of programming is the audio record. These people are paying millions of dollars to take care of your children!]. PAT: This, of course, is Destiny. All of our writers are dedicated to their job and do their best to produce all types of academic papers of superior quality. Or is it? That's how I've always looked at it. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: This could mean sterilization, it could mean getting an IUD.]. DESTINY HARRIS: You missed it. Okay, you want to say bye? [2] Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. We actually sent our friend, Pejk Malinovski, to the archives in Stockholm to check it out. ROBERT: Are you near the Arctic Circle or OLOV BYGREN: My home village was 10 miles North of polar circle. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yep, Im a professor in the faculty of medicine at McGill University in Montreal. "I want to thank you for your support and kindness as always." LYNN PALTROW: I'm Executive Director and Founder of National Advocates for Pregnant Women. Welcome to the Grammys of government-funded research. I mean, when you look at the records, you don't see huge spikes in mortality. They won't grow much on the outside, but on the inside That is the time where the sperms are developing. JAD: Even if it helps, it's horrifying. In any case, what they saw at the end of all this counting wasWell, first of all, what they saw was this pattern that rat pups who got licked a lot as babies, when they grew up, they licked their babies a lot and the rat pups who didn't get licked a lot, when they grew up, they didn't lick their babies. Whole lifetime of stretching. JAD: So, in the end, where do you come down on this? Live shows were first offered in 2008. And she says, one day, this idea just came to her. Life is hard.". Find ratings and reviews for the newest movie and TV shows. They like to hang out in the water and the females like to lay eggs in the water. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. 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